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It's impossible not to buy stuff made in China. Look around your house, half of the stuff there, including your home theater electronics is made in China. The problem with China made stuff is the company producing the stuff, not the fact that it's made in China. When it comes to anything that might need service, make sure the company selling it stands behind it with parts and service.
Cavi, I agree with you 100%. China made stuff has gotten a bad reputation, but it's not because China only makes crap, it's because the people selling the crap just want to make a quick buck. I have a Yamaha stereo receiver, a Sony DVD player, Panasonic subwoofer, all made in China. Look around at the decent quality stuff you have in your house, you might be surprised. The decent China built UTVs are decent because there are companies behind the design and manufacturing that care about quality and repeat business.
My comment about bigotry is in reference to the "hahahahaha ching chow choe chang...." comment.
I own a motorsports store, and I see A LOT of Chinese ATVs in for service. Most of the problems I see with the china made stuff is poor assembly. Metal savings stuck in the carburetor, bolts not tightened, etc. Some of the problems are poor design problems, like binding suspension, and poorly fitting parts. There are a few companies that seem to have much better products. For someone to see a photo, and declare it crap because it's made in China is just ignorant. Yamaha has factories in China. Some of the parts are made in China, shipped to Japan or the US, and assembled there. Parts and service support will be the difference between quality and junk. Someone who buys an ATV off the internet, and can't get a part replaced will suffer. The companies selling china made ATVs with authorized parts and service dealers all around the country, will have MUCH better products.
I'd buy it for $7999, throw a bunch of after market performance parts on it, leave you in the dust, and have a bunch of money left over for gas. It would be very ignorant to think that the China made copies, or knockoffs are junk. I am embarrassed to have such ignorant, and bigoted people sharing this country with me.
Your just bent because you spent $11,000 on extras for your Rhino and We spent $11,000 on a Ruesch. Like the other guy said, Yamaha was junk 30 years ago. When was the last time you bought a US made appliance or TV? There's alot of junk out there, but not everything - Ipods, Blackberry, Ruesch.
who is the one that's bent??
I can tell you who will have a bent utv real soon and it ain't me. Yeah, I spent Alot of money on my rhino, probably more than you make in a year, what else you got? Mine is built like a tank with a brand new rotax 800 vtwin efi with custom ron wood exhaust and intake. makes 65rwhp. so what else ya got??? I smoke rzrs like a black and mild. What else do YOU got?
come back in a year when your shit breaks and you can tell ol maxi your sorry,cause he was right.
So why would you want or need to upgrade your Rhino so much? What was wrong with the stock Rhino?
Here is an Arizona video of the Ruesch XRL in action
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If that video is suppose to show how bad the suspension is, it worked.
The front end on that thing dives into every bump. I'd have to stop and take a piss every 5 minutes of riding with a set-up like that.here is a real video, with real suspension set-ups, notice the front ends don't ride like yours.
It's going 5mph over those bumps! A rhino with $4k in long travel parts will do the same. You guys will find any reason to tear a hole in this XRL wont you? The suspension is decent, but the shock compression valve did needed to be opened a bit to be a bit softer, it did bounce a bit at slower speeds. You are comparing the stock XRL to $30k race rhinos.
I wouldn't suggest you buy an XRL and take it out on the track against $30k race Rhinos. However, you could start with the stock XRL and make some of the same improvements that you would do to a stock Rhino to get it race ready. It's a good machine, it's durable, looks good and isn't going to break the bank.
In those video's you linked, there are a few Rhinos diving into the ground. In the Youtube video at 1:22, What does that mean?
Here is an Arizona video of the Ruesch XRL in action
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I live in Phoenix and would like to see one. What is th name of your company noisytoyz?
Noisy Toyz Motorsporst in Chandler. Come look one over and take one for a spin. No salesman crap from us.
this guy is spewing this crap all over the internet
look at it this way, is it bitter rhino owners who have nothing to gain, warning people to not buy junk?
or is it a dealer trying to sell his product and doing everything he can to sell his crap?
I gain NOTHING by telling the truth, he may sell a coffin to one of you. take it for what it's worth.Max, have you ever even seen one? Have you driven one? I have talked to some very knowledgeable people, who fabricate parts for Rhinos, who's job it is to support the UTV industry, some who couldn't care less what people buy and sell, but they all are impressed with the quality and workmanship.
So you are taking it as your duty to warn everybody of the dangers of buying junk? Seriously? I posted a response to your in-accurate, misguided, closed minded, attack on products that you know noting about. There is certainly a lot of crap being created in China, what makes you think this is one of them? I think some of the insecure Rhino owners have to justify the $18k they spent getting their Rhino built up, by knocking down the $10k equivalent machines. You have noting to gain by attacking other people's interests, but a year from now, when the Ruesch vehicles are respected and winning races, you will look like the fool.
when that day happens, I'll gladly tell you I was wrong, But it just ain't gonna happen.
Just show up at any race and let's see how it does.
If you came out and said, Here is a cheap version of a rhino, it's slower, less reliable, cheaper made, therefore cheaper priced
you might get some respect, but when all you do is try to tell us how much better it is than a rhino for less money, your just blowin smoke up peoples asses. Be honest about what your doin. I own a business sellin a/c units, and there are cheaper units that provide the same amount of cold air, but there noisy as hell and will die in half the time of a quality one that you have to pay more for. Just the way it works, I didn't make the rules.
The Ruesch is much lower cost than the Rhino, and that alone might make it better. Now if the Ruesch were as powerful and as durable as the Rhino, and still lower cost, then it would most definitely be a better machine. The stock XR isn't as powerful as the stock Rhino, but it's not too far behind. After a few races, with the 950 motor, we'll see which machine is better.
If a new A/C unit were to come on the market, claiming to be quieter, last as long, blows just as cold, and lower cost, would you call it crap, or would you want to see it for yourself before laying judgment? Well, I chose to see it for myself. I'm still waiting to see that the XRL is as durable as the Rhino, which really won't be too hard considering all the stock parts that need to be replaced on the Rhino be fore it's worthy. It does need a more powerful motor to out perform the stock Rhino. The stock Ruesch 500cc motor is a decent motor for the average American user. The guys trail riding, hunting or working the farm will find the 500cc motor to be plenty of power.
this guy is spewing this crap all over the internet
look at it this way, is it bitter rhino owners who have nothing to gain, warning people to not buy junk?
or is it a dealer trying to sell his product and doing everything he can to sell his crap?
I gain NOTHING by telling the truth, he may sell a coffin to one of you. take it for what it's worth.
Max, have you ever even seen one? Have you driven one? I have talked to some very knowledgeable people, who fabricate parts for Rhinos, who's job it is to support the UTV industry, some who couldn't care less what people buy and sell, but they all are impressed with the quality and workmanship.
So you are taking it as your duty to warn everybody of the dangers of buying junk? Seriously? I posted a response to your in-accurate, misguided, closed minded, attack on products that you know noting about. There is certainly a lot of crap being created in China, what makes you think this is one of them? I think some of the insecure Rhino owners have to justify the $18k they spent getting their Rhino built up, by knocking down the $10k equivalent machines. You have noting to gain by attacking other people's interests, but a year from now, when the Ruesch vehicles are respected and winning races, you will look like the fool.
Make sure you do your research on this company. All the good stuff said about them is coming directly from them. (I made the trip from CA to Cedar City Utah for their "dealer meeting" Let me tell you first hand. What a JOKE.) Ruesch Motor Co. better known as Ruesch Media Group, is the ones trying to sell these things. Of course they are going to be on the cover of UTV Dealer News, Ruesch owns it. They write and publish everything in it.
Yes, make sure to do your homework. Ruesch Motor Company has invested a tremendous amount of time and money in developing the XR and XRL. I went to the dealer training, and they weren't joking. These machines are good quality. I am an authorized Ruesch dealer in Chandler, AZ. I own and operate a motor sports store, supplying parts, accessories, and service for all the makes and models. I can tell you stories about Yamaha and their refusal to take care of engine repairs. Leaving Rhino owners stranded with a broken Rhino and now way to get a replacement motor. I urge everybody to do their homework, look at the Yamaha Rhino and look at the Ruesch XR and XRL. Don't let the bitter overpaying rhino owners tell you lies. Just look for yourself.
Ruesch Motor Company has some big names in accessories such as Dragon Fire Racing, Full Throttle Suspensions, and more signing up with their after market parts and support. Also much of the Yamaha accessories available will fit on the XRL. Ruesch Motor Company provides the same warranty that you get from Yamaha. For $16k you can get a used Yamaha Rhino 660 with some of the same components that comes from the factory on a Brand New Ruesch XRL for under 12k.
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