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I have a Joyner Trooper T2. I purchased mine a few months ago and I have to tell you guys that this thing is AWESOME. It kicks the pants out of a rhino in every way hands down. It's more powerful than a RZR by far and will go more places, excluding sand. The Troopers suck in sand because they're heavy...but they've got the power to back them up. It's bottom end USABLE power though.....and in the sand you really would prefer to have high rev power.
In any case, I would recommend anybody to get one..but I'll offer the following advice:
1) The trooper is a new product offered as of late last year. Since it is less than a year old they've discovered issues and offered replacement parts. When purchasing, make sure to buy the 2nd generation that they began releasing this past summer. You can tell it from the others because it has a winch mounted high in the front end rather than from the tow bracket. This generation has other upgrades as well such as reinforced diff brackets and more refined suspenson.
2) Insist on taking delivery with a CV driveline already installed. They released this driveline after complaints of U-joint failures. This driveline is stout and bad ass!
3) Install limiting straps in the rear if you plan to jump. This is just common sense.
On another note regarding parts availability, realize that this machine (unlike all others) is built on automotive technology. Any part on the engine or frame can be purchased at your local autoparts store. Realize that the chinese rip off EVERYTHING so pretty much every part on this buggy has a japanese passenger car equivalent that can be purchased at a local autoparts store for typical discount prices rather than go through a motorsports place and paying their huge markup.
These things come with rear mounted aluminum radiators, automotive fuel pumps and fuel regulators, automotive engines that use regular car oil, an inline 4 cylinder that's fuel injected, a stainless fuel cell, plus front and rear lockers. They are heavy...because they are built solid. Plus if you look you can purchase them for 12k out the door. The couple times I have needed parts, I called Joyner direct (they're in arizona) and they sent me the parts I needed free of charge and I installed them myself. Personally I'd rather deal with a company that sells a few hundred units instead of a couple hundred thousand units. I'd rather talk to someone named Joe or Bob or Mike and explain my concerns instead of calling Yamaha's 800 number or trying to plead my case to a dealer that really only wants to know me for as long as it takes to make the initial sale.
Food for thought.
I'll have to dig up some pics on my other computer but if you don't know much about them, they're a little longer and wider than a rhino. They're also a LOT heavier....but they've got an 1100 cc engine that makes 86hp. The engine is manufactured by CHERY, which is actually I believe the second largest engine manufacturer in the world. Parts are readily available due to this...you just have to know where to look. The Joyners are commonly referred to as "china buggies", which sounds derogatory but my experience has been actually the opposite and here's why: the chinese rip off EVERYTHING in designing parts. What this means is that every part on the buggy has a japanese part that it's identical to. If you need a part you just go to your local autoparts store and they can measure it and figure out what japanese car it is equivalent to and find you a replacement from their stock. The buggy differs from a rhino or RZR in that it has a true 5 speed manual trans. Personally I prefer to shift. I like manipulating the clutch. 1st gear is VERY low and tops out around 4mph. It's excellent for climbing up or over anything. It will spin all four wheels when locked up (front and rear lockers and 4wd) before it stalls. Since they were just released last year, they have some bugs to work out, but so far Joyner has been great about listening to trooper owners and issuing replacement parts. You aren't going to get the top workmanship that you'd expect from yamaha or polaris or the like so you need to be handy with a wrench, just like a hard core jeep guy would. You're going to push the thing hard and you're going to break it...but that's part of the fun. If you look however, you can find one brand new OUT THE DOOR for 12k. Considering that's less than a lesser equipped polaris or yamaha with a bigger engine and more features and capabilities...in my opinion it's worth it. They do suck in the sand though...they're too heavy! They sure turn heads though.
Hey, I'm just curious if there are any Trooper owners on this board. The only site I've found with a large following of Trooper owners is "riding arizona" but I'd really like to talk to people that are more local to CA than that.
Any chance of a Joyner section popping up in the future? I know there is a strong bias against them in some circles but my 1100cc fuel injected 4wd WITH lockers has been a great buggy for me with no problems to speak of. Then again, it's maintained properly and then some and has been upgraded a bit to prevent breakdown.
What do you say???
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