hay thanks for the replies heres a little info where i live in cali there no snow or sand but i plan on going to both . mostly hills ,rocks and trails all are utv excesabal also it well be a 09 or 08 because i have to finance  this is kind of another Question i see alot of videos of utvs with brock axles is that a big problem,any thing on the XP or RZR that well need to be replaced axles, clutch stuff like that . any places to see good utv videos .thanks