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#1 2008-09-12 15:18:54

madinidaho
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From: Idaho Falls, Idaho
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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

I have an 08 Polaris RZR which I took ownership of 03-19-08.  The dirt getting past the OEM filter is unbelievable.  I will include several links to pictures I have taken, including a video of the oil changed out of my RZR.  Please take notice of the dirt in the bottom of the milk jug.  My unit is in the dealer as I write this getting the top end removed for Polaris.  Please check out your unit.


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#2 2008-09-12 20:12:21

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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

wow, pretty bad, I have 10 hours on mine and I decided to get the BTI performance airbox/filter hopefully that takes care of the problem. So what does polaris say about this?? do they have a fix yet??


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#3 2008-09-12 21:47:17

madinidaho
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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

I will keep you posted what I find out.

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#4 2008-09-14 16:59:51

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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

They make a silt sock that can be fitted over the filter for extreme fine silt conditions, I am not sure who made it but will try to find out about it. The only problem with the silt filter is you will have to keep it clean a lot more often.


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#5 2008-09-15 13:30:14

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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

O.K. there has been apparently been a problem with the RZR air boxes and the sealing design with them, Polaris has a warranty fix for the problem and you should call and take it to your dealer for the fix. make sure that your dealer looks into the warranty repair from Polaris themselves since not all Polaris dealers are on the ball with things with these machines, They will need to change out some parts for a new design. :roll roll


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#6 2008-09-19 19:15:14

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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

[O.K. there has been apparently been a problem with the RZR air boxes and the sealing design with them, Polaris has a warranty fix for the problem and you should call and take it to your dealer for the fix. make sure that your dealer looks into the warranty repair from Polaris themselves since not all Polaris dealers are on the ball with things with these machines, They will need to change out some parts for a new design]

My dealership does not know of anything.  I did you find out about this and pleaseeee give me specifics.  Polaris came back yesterday and said they would only replace the top end of my engine.  I am not going to take this because they have not fixed the problem of dirt getting past my filter and into the engine.  They will not consider, atleast at this time, an engine replacement and a new filter/throttle body/airbox combination.  I have contacted my attorney.

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#7 2008-09-19 20:10:59

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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

To be honest with you i thought your Polaris dealer would know nothing about your problem, it maybe probable denial and they really are not that up on Polaris technical stuff anyway, at least in my area, I go into there shops and know more about there products then they do, i have ran into this with them a lot, Are you the first or second owner of your RZR,  from what i gather Polaris was to send out a warranty recall in regards to your problem but it would have been sent to the person that purchased it originally, at this time you need to got to    www.prcforum.com  site and go to Ranger RZR discussions and it will show all the problems with the GEN 1 RZR air boxes, all the info is there and Polaris is aware of the problem from what i have read, the dealers are very unhelpful in my area on the simplest questions which tell me the same about yours. when you posted your problem this is were i remember seeing the answer and looked into it. good luck and let me know what happens. they have a wealth of info there on Polaris problems, I tried to get a copy of the service recall but was not able to obtain one.


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#8 2008-09-19 20:14:59

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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

Oh bye the way Polaris has completely redesigned the filter system for the 2009 model due to the problem you are having. from what i have read from your first post you may be the 1st owner and that means maybe they are behind in the notice, I hope the info above will help you resolve the problem, any other questions i will be happy to try to help and please let use here know the out come. there are a lot of people with your problem :?:  :?:



This is a list of changes for the 2009 air boxes posted on the PRC site.

The following is a list of changes of the Model Year 2009 RZR air intake system.
>Better sealed air box lid. This was accomplished by adding a 3rd clip. 
>Better Throttle Body boot and connection.
>Hose clamp was replaced with a new injection molded air filter sealing ring.
>New “closed cell” foam was placed around intake dog house.
>The filter was changed to have 100% more pleated surface area and 2 ½ times the pleat depth. A new severe duty environment type media is now used.


On my latest research it seems that Polaris has a fix for the problem but is it enough, There fix does not include all the 2009 upgrades and only includes an o ring and updated filter, If i were you i would upgrade yours to the 2009 parts spec's and see if you can run a snorkel like the ranger xp has to get it into cleaner air. The ranger xp has two filters, One at the snorkel under the hood and the main one behind the intake.


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#9 2008-09-19 21:00:33

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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

Is there anybody out there that has a copy of this service bulletin for this problem, Please post, thanks....


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#10 2008-09-20 15:02:24

madinidaho
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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

RANGERDALEXP
Thanks for the update.  I have posted multiple times on PRC, Side by side, and Polaris RZR forum.  What I have seen from all of the posts regarding the new design will work for me.  The problem I have at this time is the engine/air box, etc.  Even if I get the top end replaced, the lower end still has all the dirt issues and I don't have any changes to my air box/filter/throttle body.  I may be looking at this wrong but to me the engine is not worth spending a ton of money out of my pocket.  It's like trying to bail water out of the Titanic, it was still going to sink no mater what they did to it.  What I really want to find out is if someone got their engine replace and then the new filter/tb, etc combo; and if so, what have they done to make this happen.  We need to stick together where we are all having the same issues.

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#11 2008-09-20 17:00:07

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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

What i have seen is they are taking each unit on a case by case determination, It seems that Polaris would have tried to not get involved at all if it was not from pressure from the PRC site but i am understanding that they may have stopped short on replacing the damaged engines, as fare as i am concerned they have a flaw and if it has destroyed the engine they should at least install a factory re-manufactured engine, I just feel that maybe PRC maybe trying not to push a little harder to some what save there reputation with Polaris corporate, Maybe at this point you should pay out off pocket to finish the rebuild and then go after them for the cost of the bottom end rebuild, There is definitely enough evidence to prove your point, collect all the info out there and have a lawyer submit paper work to Polaris, They may just want to settle then to go to court over it, I am not sure if small claims can go after a company in another state, also do a search on google on the issue, i found lots of other sites posting your problem, i think PRC from what i have read over there has gone as fare as they are willing to go with this issue, I will keep my eyes and ears open for anymore info. :?  :?  :?


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#12 2008-09-20 17:21:50

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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

here is a number i have came up with working on your problem. they are an attorney that is working on this case. :!:

call 415-455-1326 ext 223 ask to speak with Harry. big_smile


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#13 2008-09-20 19:44:05

madinidaho
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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

Thanks for the update again and the attorney.  We all will appreciate it.

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#14 2008-09-20 22:06:38

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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

You are welcome and let me know what happens. :?:


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#15 2008-10-01 19:15:33

madinidaho
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Re: RZR air box dirt and dirty oil

RANGERDALEXP
My service manager called me today and said Polaris authorized a new crank and bearings for the lower end.  They had already approved the top end replacement last week.  I don't know for sure if the letter from my attorney helped or if it was Polaris's decision to do what was right.  I still am going to fight for the new boot, trottle body, and air intake housing. 

I didn't contact your attorney for the class action suit because of the letter from Polaris and the 18 month warranty.  Do you feel this is still necessary?

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