Rhino Recall

duckfart · 2009-04-03 22:12:46

mbroyles · 2009-04-04 02:49:48

Rhinos don't tip over...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjBdR_y9 … r_embedded[/youtube]

Brad777 · 2009-04-04 11:05:07

Mr. Sand appears to be one of those parents whose 'self declares' himself and his family as perfect. Just ask him and he'll probably tell you that his family never does anything wrong. :shock: Is he from Utah? I only pick on Utah because I live in Utah and see this attitude too frequently. Additionally, I understand we have a Porn problem too.

Where is that Emoticon that is sick and throwing up.

Badley · 2009-04-04 16:23:42

Rhinos don't tip over...

8) According to the lawsuit, they flip over by themselves for no apparent reason

Titan · 2009-04-04 21:31:54

Sounds like a rare case of spontaneous rollover.

Every motor vehicles is unsafe in the hands of an idiot. If people baned the use of every motor driven wheeled vehicle because someone was killed in a crash we would all be walking. Personaly I miss 3wheelers

reggisrhino · 2009-04-06 10:14:28

John I guess you got butsed.
#1 A pervert at a church function. :?
#2 Milking $$ from people over a poor childs death. :x
#3 A smuck who cannot take personal responsibilty. :shock:
#4 Takes credit for others hard work. :twisted:
#5 A bold face LIAR. :x
#6 Over all turd.

WTG 450GRL

WarriorRider · 2009-04-27 22:53:41

You guys need to lighten up he is just trying to protect you and your children from having this happen to you. You all have to agree that the Rhino is tippy, some blame a design flaw, others argue that the apparent flaws are what you need to design a off road vehicle of this type. Yamaha even agrees that its tippy its all over the warning labels on the dash that it can tip. Knowing that, Yamaha should have done more to protect occupants in the event of a rollover. A set of side nets like what comes on Honda's Big Red would have saved Ellies (Johns daughter) life. Yes I know you can get them after market but should you have to? JUST THINK A NET THAT WOULD HAVE COST YAMAHA $100 TOPS COULD HAVE SAVED A LITTLE GIRLS LIFE. WHAT IS YOUR CHILDS LIFE WORTH? You guys should vent your anger some where else I know John personally and he is a good guy, it's very childish of you guys to get into his personal life especially anything to do with his daughter. Shame on you, if you dont like him sueing Yamaha flame away about that but stay out of his personal life. You guys should be mad at Yamaha for risking all your lifes over a $100 net. What happend may have been an accident but it wouldnt have cost a 10 year old girl her life if Yamaha would have taken some saftey precautions. Oh and if you knew what you where talking about you would know John never owned a Rhino it belonged to someone else but if he had owned it ofcoarse he would of gotten rid of it, would you want to walk into your garage every day and look at the machine that killed your daughter and visualize her small body crushed under it? You guys really need to learn some respect!!!!! If you have to pay $150.00 more this year than last but your getting a safer machine isnt it worth it? Any one that answers no to that question deserves to get crushed by there sxs. Bottom line is John just made our sport safer you should be thanking him!!!!!!!

Fasttrax · 2009-04-28 07:41:36

My f-350, Honda Cr-v and my atv's all have the same label in an abrupt turn that it can roll. Should the manufacturer keep adding things to make it safer every time there is a rollover? Nets would have possibly helped but think how many legs was saved by the doors and leg minders. The Rhino was intended as a utility machine like the mule and the ranger. When us yaahoos learned what else Grandpa's toy would do that is when the injuries started. Why haven't some of the other designs like the Ranger, Tyrex, Prowler and the china thing done anything to prevent injuries? This latest voluntary repair (not a recall) will cause more stress to hubs creating a larger danger than before along with the independent movement on loose ground. The Honda 700x has incorporated this and has been a big issue in the sand making it unsafe.
:!: What is the difference between my toys and someone elses is MY ACTIONS! :!:

I do feel for his loss but we are here to enjoy the hobby and yes you can get hurt. I would have taken care of the driver to prevent this guy from having any off-spring of his own, putting a limit to rejects in our society. I drive all day and I wait for someone not following the posted rules to plow into me, what is the difference?

Every safety posting I have ever read around any machines has been written by someone that got injured doing it wrong. It should make you read a little more often and make you responsible for your actions.
:idea: PROPER WAY TO DESCRIBE IT IS: Mishaps are caused from people not reading or listening and an accident is being in the wrong place and being injured from someones life mishap.

Again, I will allow to disagree with my statement but I was brought up being having to be responsible for my own actions. However, if you feel you have ever been injured from not listening, reading or maintaining the proper equipment or by someone elses actions, i would fear God!. I could go on and on!

Titan · 2009-04-28 13:01:40

:x Looks like JohanSands got him self a new name.........(warriorrider)......... Maybe?....

...."You guys need to lighten up he is just trying to protect you."

.... LMFAO ....

Just a tid bit of info.
More people died last year from lightning strikes than all UTV accidents combined. .....Kinda odd dont ya think?

Badley · 2009-04-28 13:46:38

:x ...."You guys need to lighten up he is just trying to protect you."
.... LMFAO ....

Agreed

WarriorRider · 2009-04-30 19:52:53

Just wondering how much you guys make on your paper routes. Must be quite a bit if you can afford a sxs. Cause the way your acting I would figure your around 16 years old. Grow up John Sands did you a favor he isnt trying to get Rhinos banned he's just trying to make them safer for every one involved in the sport. I know that can only go so far, there is risk involved in this sport but shouldnt Yamaha be taking steps to keep every one safer. It is cool of them to do the voulentary upgrade to used models, you dont see Chevy going back and putting side airbags on there old cars. Bottom line is this John wasnt trying to get Rhinos banned just made safer. I doent have a sxs but an atv if someone was trying to improve atv safety I would not flame on them for it, if they where trying to get them banned that would be a different story. And a net would have definatly saved her life as her head got crushed by the roll bar with nets her head wouldnt have been able to get between the roll bar and the ground. I agree with you some of the lawsuits out there are bogus "the rhino just tipped over while going strait at slow speeds on flat ground" yeah right someone did something to make it tip or its just posesed :twisted: Thats where the issue lies if Yamaha wanted to create a versitle machine that could fit in the bed of a truck and sit two poeple sxs thats fine the only way to make a vehicle like that would be to make a vehicle that is tippy. So knowing that they should have installed safety features to insure the safety of the occupants. Honda realized this on there sxs. My opinion they shouldnt be doing wheel spacers and should be doing side nets. Any one that bought there Rhino to fit it in there truck bed or down the tight trails they ride will just remove them anyways. And we all know Yamaha's favorite comeback is that the Rhino is a utility vehicle for working out of but have you seen the ads for it they paint a different story showing the Rhino blasting up a rock strewn hill bouncing up in the air off of the rocks. Looks like fun it would make anyone watching want to go do the same thing with theres when they go ride. You got alot of idiots that think that just because they saw the one on t.v. do it theres can to. Then they try it doent have the skill to make it and kill themselves. Then you have another sxs death and an even bigger dark cloud over the sport.

Fasttrax · 2009-04-30 20:52:55

I do agree that the nets would be the safest, most affordable feature they could add for safety, would everyone use them...NO. Much like the safety instructions and the seatbelts installed there will always be the person who can't read or to drunk to assume the correct thing to do and a bunch of lawyers that will gladly file lawsuits that contests the design of the machine.

Johns daughter may have still been alive if the driver would have simply abidded by the written postings that was installed by the manufacture. I can understand his desire but to go after the manufacture with lawsuits is wrong. He should be making sure his friend is responsible for his actions. Things would flow alot smoother in society if we would give input to manufactures with ideas and recommendations than money hungry lawsuits that only reap penny awards for the victims.

I don't like being the BIG opinion here but am getting fed up with our irresponsible society of today.

My newspaper route pays plenty too! (JK!)

Badley · 2009-05-01 11:02:11

Just wondering how much you guys make on your paper routes. Must be quite a bit if you can afford a sxs. Cause the way your acting I would figure your around 16 years old.

Well, "Johnny come lately" er WarriorRider (er John??), we have had this discussion every year since the death of John's daughter and it has not always been so sarcastic. But, it is getting OLD going over the same things repeatedly. We all feel bad for John and hope he finds some peace. Since you are so mature and knowledgable maybe you can explain to us infants about the money trail. Are you saying John is only doing this for the good of the industry? If a settlement is reached and it only about changing design or adding safety equipment, fine - I will believe it is a righteous crusade. You want to prove to me that there is no monetary gain?

My Rhino had warning stickers everywhere... My RZR has more warning stickers than paint I assume we will be getting even more warning stickers...

The net idea is a good one - especially if young children are riding. A good harness is the first priority. The RZR comes with safety nets, but they are too close the steering wheel and a lot of people are removing them.

Titan · 2009-05-01 12:20:41

Ill have you know Im 30 and I make $1.10 on my paper route all five houses say im the best paper boy they have ever seen.

This whole thing is no differant than guns. ----- Guns dont kill people, people with guns kill people. ----- Rhinos dont kill people, people that dont know how to drive rhinos kill people. Its an inanement object that needs interaction from an irisponsable person to kill.

This is something Johnsands wrote on Nov 05 2008

"I am back! I am the one everyone here hates.
Anyway today Wall Street Journal has a FRONT PAGE article titled "U.S. Probes Off-Road Vehicles After a String of Deaths"
Yes the article is about our little friend the Rhino. And yes.....it was me that contacted them and got their interest up.
Pertty good.....FRONT PAGE!
OK.....go ahead a blast me

How can anyone defend that. He is proud of coming here even thoe he knows what the reaction will be.
He knows everyone here doesnt care about anything he has so say, he is not here to try to help us, he is here because he is against Rhinos, and some where in his sick twisted mind im sure he gets his jollys off by coming here. So if warriorrider (john) thinks the rest of us are being childish then maybe they should look back on who started this whole mess. What ever happend to JohnSands? Ever since 450grl called him on his porn? the weaisle hasnt shown his face here.
Leave the court cases, recalls and newspapers out of this. People are not going to change just because one person demands it and spare the rest of us from your petty bitching on how your going to save us all. Seat belts, hand holds, leg minders and nets are no mach for stupidity and negligence.

Titan · 2009-05-01 16:54:10

One more tid bit of info.

Each year 25,000 people are injured and 75 people are killed on garden tractors.
1 out of 5 is a kid.
Where is your bleeding heart for them.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-724729.html

Maybe johnsands can save us all from our John Deer or Sears tractors next.

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