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lanny · 2009-08-21 06:12:17

[font=Arial] [/font][size=12] [/size] New to utv. Just bought used 08 rzr to be used mostly in dunes. Guy's give me some input on best clutch kit and best air cleaner kit .
Thanks for your help.

Fasttrax · 2009-08-21 08:13:09

Why mess with it? The performance is already great unless you want to rebuild it by using a K&N or other issues. The clutching is great for the dunes. For what I have seen I would leave it alone unless you are dedicated to being a little faster for a short time.

RANGERDALEXP · 2009-08-21 09:46:58

[font=Arial:e4d2034148] [/font:e4d2034148] New to utv. Just bought used 08 rzr to be used mostly in dunes. Guy's give me some input on best clutch kit and best air cleaner kit .
Thanks for your help.

As for the filter i would never run a K&N in silty conditions on an 08 Rzr due to the Intake issues. If I had an 08 i would update it to all the 09 intake equipment if it was me to make sure there is no issues. Make sure you have at least the Updated at minimum new filter from Polaris and run it. As for the clutch kit go to Dirty Dawg Performance and get there kit. It will make a big difference but make sure you give him all the proper information needed.

Badley · 2009-08-21 10:57:52

I agree - no K&N. I am sure K&N filter has my Rhino using oil. The stock Polaris paper filter seems to do a good job trapping fine particles.

kbruce130 · 2009-08-24 22:12:34

I'll make it a third vote against the K&N. I've had multiple dealerships and experienced riders in the Phoenix area advise against the K&N system. They all claim it will let small silt particles get through, which equals bad news for the upper end. Trust me on the particle issue, I'm speaking from experience (see RZR Oil Usage Thread). As Rangerdale mentioned, if you do nothing else, and I can't stress this enough, make sure your intake has been updated and the newer filter system installed. If you don't, you will, and I repeat, will trash the motor!

With all that said, my dealer (the one who rebuilt my motor) recommended I run either the new upgraded Polaris paper filter or the Uni Filter in my new engine. He said they both do a great job at keeping the dirt out and cost almost the same. In addition, the Uni is suppose to give it a little more power and can be cleaned and reused. If you go with the Uni option just make sure you oil it generously.

As for the dunes, I've put about 1,000 miles on mine out there and have had a hoot!!!. I can't hardly wait for October to roll around!

Good Luck!!!

RANGERDALEXP · 2009-08-25 14:14:52

I'll make it a third vote against the K&N. I've had multiple dealerships and experienced riders in the Phoenix area advise against the K&N system. They all claim it will let small silt particles get through, which equals bad news for the upper end. Trust me on the particle issue, I'm speaking from experience (see RZR Oil Usage Thread). As Rangerdale mentioned, if you do nothing else, and I can't stress this enough, make sure your intake has been updated and the newer filter system installed. If you don't, you will, and I repeat, will trash the motor!
With all that said, my dealer (the one who rebuilt my motor) recommended I run either the new upgraded Polaris paper filter or the Uni Filter in my new engine. He said they both do a great job at keeping the dirt out and cost almost the same. In addition, the Uni is suppose to give it a little more power and can be cleaned and reused. If you go with the Uni option just make sure you oil it generously.
As for the dunes, I've put about 1,000 miles on mine out there and have had a hoot!!!. I can't hardly wait for October to roll around!
Good Luck!!!

I would have to agree with the use of the uni filter style as well as a possible choice. Almost all of the Baja off road vehicles use that type but the one thing you must be careful with is the amount of oil you use for the filter due to the proximity of the t/mapp or t/bap sensor. To much oil will contaminate the sensor and could require cleaning or replacement of the sensor.

kbruce130 · 2009-08-25 18:02:24

Rangerdale,

An excellent point!!

MR. KRYPTONITE · 2009-08-25 21:51:30

I for one am a huge fan of K&N filters! We run K&N's on all of our high end drag quads that we race all over the Western United States in the sand, our bullet bikes, and our trucks just to name a few run with them. I have yet to have an issue.

One key point with any filter is to be sure and use it and maintain it the way it was intended to be. This is the one area people tend to "mess up" when using K&N filters.

The 09 intake equipment is NOT the answer to this problem. It does not solve the problem the 08's have had. I will be posting up reasons why I say this in another thread within the next week. We have been doing some testing on this very issue. Thx.

Titan · 2009-08-25 22:25:53

I have run a K&N filter on my 93 Honda 300EX since 1997, I wash and reoil it twice a year and clean the prefilter after any dusty rides never had an issue with it.
I wouldnt dare guess how many miles are on that ATV, its on its 8th set of tires, doesnt use a drop of oil and has never been rebuilt and still has great compression.
My old 97 Ford F150 came from the factory with a K&N in it, it got washed and reoiled every 6000 miles, no problems.
Im not saying other people havnt had problems with them, just saying I like them and have had good luck. But I ride mostly on dirt roads, fields and the woods. No deserts here in Maine

RANGERDALEXP · 2009-08-26 00:14:34

I for one am a huge fan of K&N filters! We run K&N's on all of our high end drag quads that we race all over the Western United States in the sand, our bullet bikes, and our trucks just to name a few run with them. I have yet to have an issue.
One key point with any filter is to be sure and use it and maintain it the way it was intended to be. This is the one area people tend to "mess up" when using K&N filters.
The 09 intake equipment is NOT the answer to this problem. It does not solve the problem the 08's have had. I will be posting up reasons why I say this in another thread within the next week. We have been doing some testing on this very issue. Thx.

I would have to completely disagree on the K&N based on over 25 years of use in all types of racing and personal use. The research and testing i have personally done out there has shown that. They do flow much better and that is a fact but they are not good for micronic filtration in silty conditions due to the design and all the info is out there on other truck and tractor sites as well as heavy equipment sites. This information is not just based on ATV/UTV sites. They do make silt socks for them to help control this problem but when they are used they tend to flow worse then a stock filter. I do highly recommend them for anything else though. As for the 2009 air intake fix it may not be a total fix but there is not a lot of people out there complaining about it with the 2009 model year. Matter of fact the fix they did for the 2008 has showed good promise from what i have seen out there and that is based on info I have seen on other sites. I still think the intake system is a poor design due to where it gets the air from and it should have been built more like the Ranger Xp design which has never had this problem. I will be looking forward to see what you will be posting on this problem in the near future and what your fix will be....

RANGERDALEXP · 2009-08-26 11:31:09

I have run a K&N filter on my 93 Honda 300EX since 1997, I wash and reoil it twice a year and clean the prefilter after any dusty rides never had an issue with it.
I wouldnt dare guess how many miles are on that ATV, its on its 8th set of tires, doesnt use a drop of oil and has never been rebuilt and still has great compression.
My old 97 Ford F150 came from the factory with a K&N in it, it got washed and reoiled every 6000 miles, no problems.
Im not saying other people havnt had problems with them, just saying I like them and have had good luck. But I ride mostly on dirt roads, fields and the woods. No deserts here in Maine

The K&N may not be an issue for everyone due to the design of the bike and more importantly the places you ride and the climate. Your 93 Honda does not have the electronics that a Polaris UTV has so oil contamination will not be an issue for you. As for your rhino i will have to look at the service manual to see what it uses for barometric pressure and air temp sensors but contamination of those sensors may not happen due to the location of where those sensors were installed from the factory. Also sand is not a problem with K&N as long as it has no silt in it. We have some dry lakes here that when you run through them the silt is so bad and that is much smaller then 30 microns gets into everything. The Ranger XP pulls clean air through two filters and gets its air from front of the vehicle so it is in front of the dust plume and not in it like the RZR. I like the K&N but if you know you are going to run in silty conditions and if your filter houseing will except a silt sock I would run one or install the stock element or a uni filter for that trip.

Enough Said on this subject.....

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