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#1 Re: Prowler Performance Mods » Update on the Prowler Desert Car... » 2011-10-17 10:34:06

Well, it's been a long time since I updated you all on the Prowler...it is pretty much finished now. Already blew a rear diff from doing a take off on pavement, but that is fixed. Finally got some seat time and testing done it though. Springs are a bit on the soft side and no sway bar hooked up yet, but it was a blast. Had several 4400 KOH cars and a trophy truck out on the track last Saturday... It was awesome running out there with them... I could tell I didn't have the 500-800hp they had, but still held my own..


Chopped the throttle a bit too soon on the jump face (causing it to drop the nose on landing), but it was a pretty soft landing overall, then had another quick jump as soon as the car settled, followed by a 180 turn... good test of suspension reaction...


The jump is actually 48ft lip to lip. Got about a 55-58ft jump outta this... Wished I had the angle more from the side to see the actual height and distance better..but I was making the jump just barely shorter than the KOH cars were doing...


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Here's a newer photo of it...
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Functional Ram Air Scoop...
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#2 Re: Events, Rallies, & Races » Rally on the Rocks says THANKS!!! » 2011-06-03 08:03:52

Coreshot, it was good having you ride and guide on Gold Bar/ Golden Spike, thanks.


Thanks for the ride Darryl, would've been a long walk... :shock:

No problem, I was glad to have you onboard, it's nice to be up front rather back in the accordion section...

See you next year I'm sure, hope you have a killer machine then..

#3 Re: Events, Rallies, & Races » Rally on the Rocks says THANKS!!! » 2011-05-26 09:07:23

A lot of you won big!

-Jared


8) Now I just need a machine for the parts I have....

I'll say you won big. Congrats on the goodies, I think this means you have to get a SXS now.

Lanse, Jared, my buddy says thanks for the drawing for the Pitbull Tires...dang, if only I had bought 5 more tickets, that would've been my number...

Awesome Rally guys...it was great meeting everyone, even if the Killer Kitty didn't make it's showing there. Coreshot, it was good having you ride and guide on Gold Bar/ Golden Spike, thanks.

#4 Re: Events, Rallies, & Races » Rally on the Rocks » 2011-04-22 09:09:38

Got my reservations in at Spanish Trails Campground and registered online.

What trails is everybody running?
I'm doing the following:

Wednesday - Steelbender
Thursday - Golden Spike/Gold Bar
Friday - going on a non-ROTR private run on Fins N Things and Hells Revenge (Park fees apply, trailered)
Saturday - Keeping open to see what other trails I want to run...

Dean Bulloch, past National UROC Rock Crawling Champion will most likely be going on the Golden Spike/Gold Bar Run with us..

Is there going to be a SideXSide Forum bbq or get together?

#5 Re: Prowler Performance Mods » Prowler 3.0 Build Up- Desert Race Prowler » 2011-04-09 05:22:30

As always looking awesome! Any CV bind?

No bind so far. I'm running these at the very close to the same travel and angle range that the new Wildcat will be at. Plus the arms are 5 inches longer on each side, so that helps.
But if they do give me problems, I'll put in 930 CV's with race hubs.

#6 Re: Prowler Performance Mods » Prowler 3.0 Build Up- Desert Race Prowler » 2011-04-08 14:13:15

It's almost done, finishing up wiring and such. Here's a few more pics from when we were doing some bracing work a few weeks ago. Forgive the fuzzy pics, didn't notice I had the camera settings wrong.

The pics show the suspension at full droop and then where they would be at full compression.

Suspension at full droop...(those tires are 28 inch tall ITPs)
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Suspension at full compression...(axles were still scabbed up in these photos)...sorry for the fuzziness.. Frame is 3.5 inches off the floor...
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Frame is 20.5 inches off the floor
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More pics soon... and I'll have a report of how it drives....

#7 Re: General Arctic Cat Prowler Discussion » NEW SPORT ARCTIC CAT!! » 2011-03-14 13:59:03

Damn!  :shock:  I like it. Looks like it will have tons of travel. Trailing arms seem to be shorter and tucked a little better than the XP. Rumors are 100 HP and cheaper than the XP. I like the doors and I can't make out the dash - almost looks like a video screen. Also looks like you could tuck some large diameter tires under it very easy. Is it me or does it look like a longer wheelbase? Very cool that someone else is entering the sport market with Polaris (maybe Can Am or Kaw will be next). This will only make the market better. AC guys need to weigh in and tell us how the AC's are doing - engine and drive train. Hope it is released soon  8)

Okay, guess I can pass on some specs for you guys.
It has no name yet, but at the dealer show, Wildcat was the most popular.
Tube chassis, long travel trailing arm rear, front A-arm setup. It does have doors.
It has 16-17 inches wheel travel (has 30 inch long reserviour shocks std), wheelbase is lengthened from previous chassis'. Width is 64 inches. Uses an HO version of the H2 V-Twin motor. It has about 95+hp, weighs less than a RZR XP900. Factory Dual exhaust. It is built for the desert southwest and dune guys. This in not a prototype machine, it will be fully in production in the next 60-90 days and is slated to be released to dealers after the late summer dealer show. But there is some grumbling that it may not fully hit dealers till January.
Arctic Cat did this pre-release teaser to catch the attention of those that would be buying the RZR XP900, as AC is squarely aimed for it.....(AC knew about the XP last year and made sure this machine would beat it in all categories.....even price, $15900).

As for reliability, I have run the hell out of 3 different Prowlers and had very little problems. Some guys have had problems, but no more than what my RZR buddies have had. And AC is using parts that they have had several years to test and improve.

This thing is wild, fast and handles like a dream.

By the way, have you seen the new Arctic Cat Logo....

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#8 Re: Prowler Performance Mods » Prowler 3.0 Build Up- Desert Race Prowler » 2011-02-04 14:43:45

Well, bad news, I won't make King Of The Hammers UTV Race, my dad suffered 2 heart attacks in the past 3 days. He's going to be okay I'm sure, the docs are doing good with him. But I just don't see how it's prudent or possible to make it to KOH this year.
The flip side of that is, it'll allow me time to test the car before the first big desert race (BITD Silver State 300).

Work on the car ground to a halt when my dad was hospitalized and most likely won't resume for a few more days. But here are some pics of where the car is at. All I'm waiting on is installing the dash, putting the front bumper on and installing the side nerf bars. Hope to have it in the desert in the next two weeks, barring any more health problems for dad.
But I will be in Moab at Rally On The Rocks, my buddies and I already have that planned out...

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CBR Radiator/Oil Cooler Unit...
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Plenty of tires...
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#9 Re: Prowler Performance Mods » Prowler 3.0 Build Up- Desert Race Prowler » 2010-09-21 20:03:57

And the latest is, just ordered new 2.0 27 inch long King Off Road Racing Shocks to replace the 19 inch OEM replacements. The new shocks will be mounted to allow 18 inches of travel front and rear (max the cv's can really take). Sold my other Kings. Best damn shocks I've found out there.
Got the new Optima Yellow Top ready to go in and start rewiring the car. Having the radiator custom built to keep the machine cool, it'll be mounted above the fuel cell and the new airbox is being built and will be installed under the front hood (hood scoop will be functional) as well as take a scoop of air from the front grill.

#10 Re: Prowler Performance Mods » Prowler 3.0 Build Up- Desert Race Prowler » 2010-09-21 20:00:08

Nick and Chris at Bionic Customs are great. They have really busted their tails to get this thing going and I'm amazed at their work.
New pics...

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All the A-arm mounting bracing layed out, ready to be welded in. I highly recommend anyone that wants to beef up their suspension on an XTZ, contact Nick and Chris and have them install a set of these on your XTZ, they really strengthen the mounts (which are extremely flimsy to begin with)..
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Where a lot of the work gets brought together..
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Chris (left) and Nick of Bionic Customs..

#11 Re: Prowler Performance Mods » Prowler 3.0 Build Up- Desert Race Prowler » 2010-09-21 19:58:27

More pics...

Nick checking out the fit while I take a break...he works hard, kept me going...
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Front superstructure in. Ready to have the suspension cut out and rebuilt...
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Ed checking fenderside fit while Nick welds
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Boxed frame sections
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#12 Re: Prowler Performance Mods » Prowler 3.0 Build Up- Desert Race Prowler » 2010-09-21 19:56:59

Okay, finally got some progress going on the build...

Bionic Customs is a new sponsor for the car and they are designing a complete +5 J arm suspension which will lengthen the wheelbase by 6 inches total.
Nick from Bionic is doing much of the welding and fabbing up stuff. He came up to Farmington for several days to get most of it built.

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#13 Re: Prowler Performance Mods » Prowler 3.0 Build Up- Desert Race Prowler » 2010-09-21 19:53:52

Well, it's finally coming together. I had to scrap what someone else had built on it and start over.
It has 216ft of 1.75X.095 4130 Chromemoly and some DOM. Stands 65 inches tall when at 13 inches ground clearance. Wheelbase will be stretched 3 inches rear and 1 inch front when the new J-Arms are installed (+5 each side). The fuel cell is just sitting on the old chassie bed mount right now, but will be 10 inches lower when installed. I have to finish the rear suspension shock mounts before I can cut out the rear shock towers and install the cell.
The driver's compartment is stretched a little to accomodate the lowered seating arangement. Width of the actual chassis is very close to OEM, in fact, I will be able to use the OEM Floor and dash. The frame was cut down to just the 2 main tubes and A-Arm mount tubes. Everything from there up is Chromemoly except for a few non-critical tubes. The door bars will go in once we get the chassis welded up further.
The new air cleaner system is going to be under the hood with a functional hood scoop. The Optima battery will be under the hood also. An alternator is being installed on the driveshaft. The front floor wall panels are interchangeable with lexan panels for rock crawling and KOH so that you can look through the front floor wall and see the tires. But for desert, sheetmetal will be in place.
Not to mention the engine and clutching work going on, it'll have a top speed upwards of 95mph. Suspension travel is over 15inches front and rear.

I want to give a HUGE PROPS and THANK YOU to Johnny and Eric from UTV INC. Their help was awesome. Eric took my design and converted it to computer layout, then the UTV Inc crew cut and bent the tubes quickly and with perfect accuracy.
You guys ROCK!!!

We are going to try and have the car ready for the Whiplash Snowflake race, then run the Fall AZ ShortCourse Series. Then next year will be a full BITD run as well as a run at the King Of The Hammers Race.

I'll keep everyone posted as it goes..here are some photos showing the mockup of the seats and body panels. Door bars and lots of bracing still to be added, as is the custom built +5 J-Arm suspension.


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#14 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » NOV MOAB TRIP! » 2010-09-10 07:40:02

Darryl can't go...... tongue

Whyzz that Kyle... *LOL*

#15 Re: Goin' Riding... Who's with Me? » NOV MOAB TRIP! » 2010-09-10 07:39:17

Darryl, you would have fun riding with this group. We have a great time on these rides and always work as a team.

Your new build is looking very nice. what engine do you have in it?

Running a modded XTZ 951cc motor. Getting some clutch work done so it'll hook up stronger on the bottom end and run out higher on the top, keeping the rpms up around 8500 under full throttle. Won't have the 116mph top speed that an SR1 acheived at the Snowflake Race last weekend, but will be around 100 we hope.

Should have the new 300M axles for it in a couple of weeks and putting on longer travel King Racing Shocks to yield about 18"+ travel. That's about all I care to push the cv's.

Body skins and roof should be on in another week as will be the wiring, harnesses and fuel lines.

Then starts the task of testing and making any changes. We are looking to run King Of The Hammers in february, select BITD races and if SNORE opens up a UTV class, that. May make a few short course race in AZ too.

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